So here’s something I, perhaps unjustifiably, find irritating. There are a few ways it can go.
Scenario #1: not irritating
I enter a restaurant to have dinner with a group of friends and we are all sitting down basically at the same time. Someone who is about to sit down realizes the arrangement will end up such that I can’t sit next to my husband, so they change course to sit elsewhere and I sit next to him.
Scenario #2: not irritating
I enter a restaurant to have dinner with a group of friends and my husband is already there. There isn’t a seat by him so I sit elsewhere. Person says “Oh, here, I’ll let you sit by your husband!” I say “Oh no, I’m fine.” Person says “OK!” or “Are you sure?” and upon hearing my “yes” lets it go.
Scenario #3: irritating
I enter a restaurant to have dinner with a group of friends and my husband is already there. There isn’t a seat by him so I sit elsewhere. Person says “Oh, here, I’ll let you sit by your husband!” I say “Oh no, I’m fine.” But no amount of demurring will dissuade this person and they make a big production of shifting themselves and everyone else around so I can sit by my husband.
Here’s the deal. Sometimes–and you may want to brace yourself for this shocking news–I would actually just as soon not sit by my husband. Yes, he is an awesome guy, and I like his company. After all, we do live together, right in the same house. Many days he is the only other person I see beyond a short interaction with a store clerk or something. In fact, come to think of it, you can perhaps start to see where it is sometimes nice for me to chat with someone else for a short while. After all, dinner will probably not take more than a couple of hours, and I promise I can live without him for that duration, especially since in all likelihood I will still be able to see and speak with him from where I am sitting. If I say that I don’t need to sit by him and you force me to, it makes me look like a bit of an asshole and a bad wife, and also deprives me of social interactions that I may have been interested in engaging in.
On a related note, I also sometimes like to talk to “the other wives” or even folks other than “the other wives” about things unrelated to being married, house and yard work, or their kids (since I don’t have any). Sure, these are great topics of conversation, but there are also others.
I guess what I’m saying is I like feeling as if there is more to me than the state of being married to someone, even if that is an integral part of my life. I’m fine with the offer to change seats since that just seems to be what we do in “polite society,” but if I say no, take my words at face value and don’t worry about it, ‘K? Thanks.
July 16, 2010 at 11:46 am
Also one might wish to note that according to traditional etiquette, husband and wife are never seated next to one another. They are generally seated across from one another and flanked by other guests with whom they are expected to socialize. In fact, they are expected to socialize more with their companions on either side than their own spouses.
Really, folks, most of us get to talk to our spouses pretty much every day. We can talk to other people and maybe even refresh ourselves for the next conversation with said spouses.
Honestly. We can manage for a couple hours perfectly well.
July 17, 2010 at 2:54 pm
That is interesting–I didn’t know that about traditional etiquette. Makes a lot of sense to me.
July 16, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Oh God yes!
As Twistie notes, the convention is to have spouses separated, and I have cited Miss Manners on this fact.
I also note that separating spouses can make it easier for them to tell stories their spouses are already tired of, or for each to tell the story their own way. Plus it can give the couple twice the amount of gossip to collect
July 17, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Great points about both story telling AND gossip! I like the way you think…
July 17, 2010 at 10:57 am
I completly agree with you, acutally when my wife and I go to dinners/parties with people we hardly see one another let alone sit next to each other.
July 17, 2010 at 3:03 pm
Sounds good to me! Good for you guys for having a system that works for you.
July 17, 2010 at 3:06 pm
As I think about it further I realize that people sometimes have… expectations… that get a little wearing. Like I take my wedding ring off for softball so it doesn’t dig into my hand, and I’ve gotten a couple of comments about it. One woman observed me trying to pull it off (my fingers were swollen from the heat that day) and said “I don’t think that’s supposed to come off!” How about I’m the one who’s been married for 12 years, I think I can take my ring off without some kind of spell being broken. Or, like I said, people sometimes think it’s weird if I don’t want to be glued to my husband’s side at all times on social occasions. To say nothing of the usual stuff like thinking I am pregnant any time I don’t drink alcohol. None of it’s a big deal taken alone, but I don’t like to be projected on all the time.
August 5, 2010 at 3:01 pm
That is sooooo annoying. As one of the people who would have been forced against her will to move b/c this person is desperate for you to sit with your hubby, I don’t appreciate it! I may well have chosen my seat via some strategic method and now it’s ruined. Even if I was in a random seat, I’m already there. If everyone has to move, all the purses and tote bags and shit have to move too.
Also, excellent point about extra gossip, Living 400lbs!
August 9, 2010 at 6:50 am
Yes–it’s also a pain for the others who are already seated. Excellent point, L!